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and one of the other key players is mitch mcconnell. what is the dynamic there do you think? >> i think the president, first time i'm talking about the mutual background on capitol hill, the president may be at a point where he has gotten obama care, which is clearly now not going to be repealed, he has created a bigger government in the direction he wants to go in. and he may want to consolidate and having lived through two solid years of not getting anything done, he may decide he doesn't want to spend four years. the odds are very high the republicans will keep the house in 2014. does he really want four years of gridlock or does he want to take a big step, which is a gamble, open the door, sit down and have genuine conversations? and frankly, as he appoints some new cabinet officers, find some republicans that could serve in the cabinet, in a serious way, that would join ray la hood. he has really been sort of isolated as the secretary of transportation. >> we've seen some comments from both sides and yes we want to try to come up with an agreement, we want to try to exte
and one of the other key players is mitch mcconnell. what is the dynamic there do you think? >> i think the president, first time i'm talking about the mutual background on capitol hill, the president may be at a point where he has gotten obama care, which is clearly now not going to be repealed, he has created a bigger government in the direction he wants to go in. and he may want to consolidate and having lived through two solid years of not getting anything done, he may decide he...
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>> i think mitch mcconnell is a little worried. you saw some of these people on election night. you saw karl rove's response. you saw mcconnell the next day. you saw speaker boehner, who is the most -- i think the most flexible of the group. they know that they're going to have to come to the table and give on a lot of things. not just that we won the election, but when i see the organizing around the president's message. he'll travel the country and talk to people, and the country is overwhelmingly with him. even people that didn't vote for him, many think the rich should pay battle more and focus on jobs. when you put that together, it's clear that the president is in a good position to win this. it really is another campaign in so many ways. >> ed, i think people think the negotiations happened for the last year in this country. we had a national debate on this question. the people have spoken. we want our government to answer the call. so for us, the issue of negotiating is we need the republican in the house to extend the middle class tax cuts permanently so they can show t
>> i think mitch mcconnell is a little worried. you saw some of these people on election night. you saw karl rove's response. you saw mcconnell the next day. you saw speaker boehner, who is the most -- i think the most flexible of the group. they know that they're going to have to come to the table and give on a lot of things. not just that we won the election, but when i see the organizing around the president's message. he'll travel the country and talk to people, and the country is...
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and rand paul who is very close to mitch mcconnell who runs the republican party in the senate. he told us he's going to start pushing for more lax marijuana laws, going to start pushing for a pathway to citizenship on illegal immigration. he said that this tea party conservatism that brought him power and some fame needs to recalibrate too and they need to use this libertarian strain to start to reach out to people in cities, in the northeast, they can't be a one-region party. again, it's not just bobby jindal, it's across the board where you have prominent, influential republicans re-thinking what it means to a republican. and that is, i think that is the one silver lining for the republican party from the results last week. >> by the way, jim, that's a big, big silver lining. a big silver lining. this is a party, this wasn't a goldwater type wipeout. it was a couple of percentage points in the popular vote. you have a president whose campaign team was brilliant and they outmaneuvered the republicans tactically in nine states. no doubt, we were out of touch with voters on issu
and rand paul who is very close to mitch mcconnell who runs the republican party in the senate. he told us he's going to start pushing for more lax marijuana laws, going to start pushing for a pathway to citizenship on illegal immigration. he said that this tea party conservatism that brought him power and some fame needs to recalibrate too and they need to use this libertarian strain to start to reach out to people in cities, in the northeast, they can't be a one-region party. again, it's not...
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whether mitch mcconnell and more adult members of the members the of the senator can put pressure on the house. if they can't change these fundamental dynamics we're headed in the same direction. >> i think mitch mcconnell is the problem because he's headed for re-election. but i think one of the interesting things that boehner said, is this your moment now, mr. president, now leave. that's both the reality and a little bit of trying to pass the buck. but it's the truth. it is going to be up to the president to go into the negotiations and to lead, and continue to listen and find areas where compromise can be built. it is on his shoulders. >> he has to lead publicly as well. >> yes. >> to sell it? >> he has to sell it. you know, there are a couple -- there aren't a lot of republicans i think that play in regards to public pressure, but there are a few. and the president's going to have to work hard, find points of pressure on those people. >> and willing to absorb some blows. >> remember when he ran against hillary clinton and beat her. hillary clinton had a great idea, self-reliance
whether mitch mcconnell and more adult members of the members the of the senator can put pressure on the house. if they can't change these fundamental dynamics we're headed in the same direction. >> i think mitch mcconnell is the problem because he's headed for re-election. but i think one of the interesting things that boehner said, is this your moment now, mr. president, now leave. that's both the reality and a little bit of trying to pass the buck. but it's the truth. it is going to be...
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does she have enough influence when you counter mitch mcconnell and others? does he have enough influence to bring in others in the party who agree? >> yes. i definitely think he does. he's considered a player. he brings to the table a very, very big demographic, which is his father's list. and that's a pretty powerful thing. and what you're going to have to watch for here is the mitch mcconnells of the world, he's somebody who is going to want to may play a little bit on immigration. he faces a primary challenge. so what you're going to see is some of these guys who maybe want to soften on immigration, getting some cover from some of the other guys who will get out there in front to try to protect them so they can win their next electio elections. >> you wrote about rank and file immigration reform yesterday. it caught my eye. it is interesting from the leaders of the party who are on the radio and television meaning like a sean hannity to actual elected officials within the gop who seem they want to speed up the process in hopes of two years from now having
does she have enough influence when you counter mitch mcconnell and others? does he have enough influence to bring in others in the party who agree? >> yes. i definitely think he does. he's considered a player. he brings to the table a very, very big demographic, which is his father's list. and that's a pretty powerful thing. and what you're going to have to watch for here is the mitch mcconnells of the world, he's somebody who is going to want to may play a little bit on immigration. he...
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john boehner, harry reid, mitch mcconnell, the same group last year. since that meeting, republicans have been discussing revenue increases. democrats want tax rate increases. republicans say there are other ways to get there like curbing tax deductions. >> this whole notion of capital gains and dividend taxes is really an explicit to pension funds and the ability of moms and pops that are out there to have income producing small capital investments. rich: the president's budget increases the top tax rate from 15 to 20%. meeting friday at the white house. back to you. lori: we know you will be there, rich. thank you. melissa: the president calling on congressional leaders to work together. congress has a voter mandate not to raise taxes. joining us now is steve moore from the "wall street journal." thank you for hopping on the phone to talk to us. i am really interested in the interview that you did. he said over the weekend "let me put it very clearly, i am not willing to turn off taxes for the sequester." >> one of the things that came through in my
john boehner, harry reid, mitch mcconnell, the same group last year. since that meeting, republicans have been discussing revenue increases. democrats want tax rate increases. republicans say there are other ways to get there like curbing tax deductions. >> this whole notion of capital gains and dividend taxes is really an explicit to pension funds and the ability of moms and pops that are out there to have income producing small capital investments. rich: the president's budget increases...
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what about nancy pelosi, harry reid, mitch mcconnell? in 2011 it was basically boehner and obama, this time there might be a few more lawmakers who want in on this deal. jenna: the president's going to be sitting down with leaders later on this week. let's talk about style versus substance, something we talked about a lot with the election. i was reading comments from the ceo of at&t today, also the senior economist from bank of america who say, listen, if they'd reach an agreement, great. but if between now and then and the disagreements look really big and bad, that's going to damage this economy because it just shatters any consumer confidence going into the holiday season. >> yes. jenna: so, ultimately, they could find a solution, but damage will already be done. what dueck about that, bob? what do you think about the style to all this as well? >> that's why -- and i agree with that, they're going to need a deal by mid december because it's going to shatter consumer confidence, and the stock market's going to play a big role here. we
what about nancy pelosi, harry reid, mitch mcconnell? in 2011 it was basically boehner and obama, this time there might be a few more lawmakers who want in on this deal. jenna: the president's going to be sitting down with leaders later on this week. let's talk about style versus substance, something we talked about a lot with the election. i was reading comments from the ceo of at&t today, also the senior economist from bank of america who say, listen, if they'd reach an agreement, great....
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both boehner and mitch mcconnell said taxes will simply not go up, period. >> bu i think you're missing the second part of the sentence which is they're willing to consider new revenue. there are lots of ways, in that old expression, to skin a cat. i thought john boehner the other day was quite emphatic in saying we are open to new revenues under the right framework. dave gergen is absolutely correct. i think this is a two-step deal. i think it's too ambitious with too little time to get to the grand bargain in the so-called lame duck session of the congress. but i think you can scrape together enough to avoid sequestration and avoid the fiscal cliff or fiscal slope. remember, they have to come up with only about $100 billion. i know that sounds weird. but $100 billion to set that aside. between spending cuts and perhaps some loophole closures i think they can raise it. but you can't confuse that with a long-term deal. >> john podesta, does the math work, though, which is if you close deductions for the wealthy people can you raise enough revenue? i think that's the fundamental question
both boehner and mitch mcconnell said taxes will simply not go up, period. >> bu i think you're missing the second part of the sentence which is they're willing to consider new revenue. there are lots of ways, in that old expression, to skin a cat. i thought john boehner the other day was quite emphatic in saying we are open to new revenues under the right framework. dave gergen is absolutely correct. i think this is a two-step deal. i think it's too ambitious with too little time to get...
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i think boehner and mitch mcconnell will say no increase in tax rate, 35% is it. i think the president will concede on that point. i think bainer and mcconnell will then accept the idea of cutting culling or capping the deductions each individual and the higher brackets can take, set a top limit on the deductions they can take and that will increase the revenue flow into the federal government. at the same time, the two congressmen, republicans, preserve the rates argument. they won't make all of their folks happy, but i think that's the deal in the works. >> greta: a couple of problems. number 1 is, the fact that -- today at least, i am always stunned when -- with the exception of senator tom coburn, i barely hear anyone talking about the tremendous amount of waste and fraud. we put up the example of the guy in the bathtub with the wine glass, which is a tiny, tiny bit, but it's representative of the mind-set here. no waste and frawpd fraud. they won't raise the tax rates, but when you do put caps on deductions, you are raising the effective rate. i mean, i guess
i think boehner and mitch mcconnell will say no increase in tax rate, 35% is it. i think the president will concede on that point. i think bainer and mcconnell will then accept the idea of cutting culling or capping the deductions each individual and the higher brackets can take, set a top limit on the deductions they can take and that will increase the revenue flow into the federal government. at the same time, the two congressmen, republicans, preserve the rates argument. they won't make all...
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so that alone is an uncomfortable position for mitch mcconnell and the three new senators forced into this horribly awkward photo-op today including one whose race is not necessarily settled in arizona where they are still counting. so it was awkward enough when mr. mcconnell thought reporters would stand there silently and take their picture after he gave those brief remarks. it got much, much worse when the reporters decided not to just take pictures. they were going to speak. >> the election is behind us, and we're ready to get started. thank you, everyone. >> senator mcconnell, are you comfortable with the investigation that is taking place in the petraeus affair and do you believe that the fbi should have notified congress earlier about this matter? >> thank you everybody. thank you, everybody. >> senator elect flake, do you agree with senator mcconnell? >> did you get your official result, senator flake? is it senator flake? >> we're comfortable. >> are you going to compromise. >> come on guys, go. come on. >> can you not push me and push everybody else. >> yup, push it along. >
so that alone is an uncomfortable position for mitch mcconnell and the three new senators forced into this horribly awkward photo-op today including one whose race is not necessarily settled in arizona where they are still counting. so it was awkward enough when mr. mcconnell thought reporters would stand there silently and take their picture after he gave those brief remarks. it got much, much worse when the reporters decided not to just take pictures. they were going to speak. >> the...
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i wonder if mitch mcconnell's approach was the right approach because that approach didn't work. that's my point here. and the question is, is mcconnell going to change his approach in negotiating and in dealing with the president and in dealing with harry reid and in dealing with john boehner, or is he going to go down the same road? mcconnell's up for re-election. he's got to worry about a primary challenge, a general election challenge. i'm just saying, it is curious to me that mcconnell actually is not getting touched here. >> i agree with chuck. it's a bit of inside baseball, but cornyn getting promoted is an unbelievable thing given what happened. i'm a fan of john cornyn's, but his record in the senate race speaks for itself. and the fact that people are just saying yeah, let him move up, unbelievable. >> people inside the senate know that john cornyn did not want todd akin to win the primary. john cornyn did not want mourdock to win the primary. >> but some of his candidates did lose as well. david, you talk about the issues, health care and appealing, part of the comebac
i wonder if mitch mcconnell's approach was the right approach because that approach didn't work. that's my point here. and the question is, is mcconnell going to change his approach in negotiating and in dealing with the president and in dealing with harry reid and in dealing with john boehner, or is he going to go down the same road? mcconnell's up for re-election. he's got to worry about a primary challenge, a general election challenge. i'm just saying, it is curious to me that mcconnell...
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on thursday republican mitch mcconnell called the president's proposal to bring in $1.6 trillion in tax revenue a joke. >>> a report due out today predicts the cash strapped federal housing administration will need bailout from the u.s. treasury for the first time in its 78-year history and happy birthday to baggy. she turns 35 today. you can stay on top of the latest developments and those stories and others as they break on msnbc and tonight be sure to watch "nbc news with brian williams." here's a look at what's coming up later today on the "today" show. lauren scruggs opens up to savannah about life after the propeller accident that almost killed her. keep it on this channel follow continuing local news, weather, sports and more. i'm lynn berry. thanks for watching "early today," your first stop of the day, today, on your nbc station. have a great weekend. >>> new this morning, air raid
on thursday republican mitch mcconnell called the president's proposal to bring in $1.6 trillion in tax revenue a joke. >>> a report due out today predicts the cash strapped federal housing administration will need bailout from the u.s. treasury for the first time in its 78-year history and happy birthday to baggy. she turns 35 today. you can stay on top of the latest developments and those stories and others as they break on msnbc and tonight be sure to watch "nbc news with brian...
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and you know, mitch mcconnell will have been here 30 years. he hasn't really had a new idea in 20 of those 30 years. >> ouch. >> and kentucky needs a new -- i go way back with mitch. we go this way all the time. but, kentucky does need a new vision. we've relied too much on things like coal and agriculture and some other things that are great parts of our economy, but our commonwealth needs new vision and that can come from someone like ashley judd, who is passionate, who studied the issues, and is very, very smart. and she would get attention. >> i'm sure. >> i think it's exciting. >> definitely she'll get attention that's for sure. i'm sure from this network and everybody else. many thanks for joining us. >> okay, alex, thank you. >>> straight ahead, why is florida still counting? gether, and these come together, one thing you can depend on is that these will come together. delicious and wholesome. some combinations were just meant to be. tomato soup from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] don't just re
and you know, mitch mcconnell will have been here 30 years. he hasn't really had a new idea in 20 of those 30 years. >> ouch. >> and kentucky needs a new -- i go way back with mitch. we go this way all the time. but, kentucky does need a new vision. we've relied too much on things like coal and agriculture and some other things that are great parts of our economy, but our commonwealth needs new vision and that can come from someone like ashley judd, who is passionate, who studied...
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mcconnell. she has taken an active role in president obama's campaign. >>> justin bieber and selena gomez have split saying that their schedule made it hard to date. >>> teachers say this dance was also about raising the learning curb. beth parker has the story. >> reporter: one minute, it is a sidewalk. the next minute, a stage. ♪ >> my heart was beating real fast. and i felt nervous a little bit. ♪ under the moonlight >> when i'm on the dance floor, the dance floor just kind of speaks to me. ♪ because this is thriller >> reporter: a two-minute flash mob right in front of the national portrait gallery. they are students from d.c.'s savoy elementary school in southeast but, on this day, they're -- >> just like michael johnson. >> a teacher directed from on torch an suv. >> i want to teach them that they can go to wherever i want to go. >> reporter: savoy was traditionally a low performing school but they were celebritiesed by the president' commission on arts to get art supplies, instrumen
mcconnell. she has taken an active role in president obama's campaign. >>> justin bieber and selena gomez have split saying that their schedule made it hard to date. >>> teachers say this dance was also about raising the learning curb. beth parker has the story. >> reporter: one minute, it is a sidewalk. the next minute, a stage. ♪ >> my heart was beating real fast. and i felt nervous a little bit. ♪ under the moonlight >> when i'm on the dance floor, the...
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it looks to me like mitch mcconnell has wanted to be majority leader since the senate race, ever since then he wanted to be majority leader. now he may never be. things do not look that much better for the republicans two years from now than they do now. he will also face a primary in two years. >> he may or may not. back in 2010 there was a contested primary in kentucky. that caused a bit of a problem for him. people were upset with him. but he has done a lot of work to hug rand paul so close to him and he let him do about whatever he wants to do on the senate floor. when he says i want to go to the floor and cause a big stink about something, mitch mcconnell says go right ahead. he is such a talented politician. he is so smart. in my opinion i think he has done everything he can do to prevent someone -- even if someone wanted to challenge him from the right he has done as much as he can do to keep them at bay. >> of course the other aspect of leadership transition in congress will be changes on the committees. your handy guy will offer lots of details. we should devote some of it to
it looks to me like mitch mcconnell has wanted to be majority leader since the senate race, ever since then he wanted to be majority leader. now he may never be. things do not look that much better for the republicans two years from now than they do now. he will also face a primary in two years. >> he may or may not. back in 2010 there was a contested primary in kentucky. that caused a bit of a problem for him. people were upset with him. but he has done a lot of work to hug rand paul so...
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. >> woodruff: senate minority leader mitch mcconnell sat down with the three confirmed additions to the republican conference. he said it was time to tackle the nation's problems. >> the country has extraordinarily difficult set of challenges facing us over the next couple of months. the election is behind us. we're ready to get started. >> woodruff: the most difficult of those challenges will be reaching a deal to avert a so-called fiscal cliff. starting january 1, some $500 billion in tax incrses will take effect with the expiration of the bush era tax cuts and the payroll tax holiday. at the same time automatic spending cuts will hit defense and domestic programs totaling $109 billion. the spending reductions were triggered when the congressional super committee failed to reach a broad deficit deal last year. that came after talks broan down between the president and house speaker john boehner. senator collins told the newshour today that she's optimistic lawmakers can still strike a deal and stave off the spending cuts. >> so this has to be done carefully. i think the president'
. >> woodruff: senate minority leader mitch mcconnell sat down with the three confirmed additions to the republican conference. he said it was time to tackle the nation's problems. >> the country has extraordinarily difficult set of challenges facing us over the next couple of months. the election is behind us. we're ready to get started. >> woodruff: the most difficult of those challenges will be reaching a deal to avert a so-called fiscal cliff. starting january 1, some $500...
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. >> congresswoman, as we see with nancy pelosi willing to stay put, mitch mcconnell staying put. harry reid and john boehner staying put. the president back in, what people would expect musical chairs. none will happen. it's the same people in the same positions and yesterday senate majority leader mitch mcconnell took to the floor and said they won't compromise. we had that interview with paul ryan with abc's jonathan karl saying it's not a mandate. they have a divided government so they'll continue with back and forth of head butting and the taxes should not be raised on wealthiest americans. are we headed just for the same old same old once again? >> i don't think so. first of all we are very pleased about nancy pelosi remaining as leader. she's done an extraordinary job in helping to increase our numbers here on the democratic side, in raising the money that was necessary for us to strengthen our hand here in the house and so she has done such a good job that we urged her to please stay on and that experience really does count. let me just say this, there is some posturing go
. >> congresswoman, as we see with nancy pelosi willing to stay put, mitch mcconnell staying put. harry reid and john boehner staying put. the president back in, what people would expect musical chairs. none will happen. it's the same people in the same positions and yesterday senate majority leader mitch mcconnell took to the floor and said they won't compromise. we had that interview with paul ryan with abc's jonathan karl saying it's not a mandate. they have a divided government so...
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jon kyl is retiring and cornyn wants to move up, number two under mitch mcconnell. this is his second run at nrsc -- they picked up six seats in 2010 and here he was expected to deliver the majority at the end of the cycle, but things turned against them. but i don't think republicans are expecting the kind of rout they saw on tuesday. talking about republicans soul- searching and whatnot, and this is part of it. we talked to one senator yesterday who said we are going to be talking about a lot of different things and how to move forward, and leadership races are a part of that. >> you can't beat somebody with nobody. is there a name? >> john thune, the current conference secretary told us four months that he may make a run for whip. he may stay in the current spot or make a run for nrsc chairman. i suspect you will decide to stick where he is right now. certainly we were trying to get those guys on the phone yesterday and they were not taking our calls. it could be there is some decision making going on. but i think at the end of the day it is unlikely cornyn draws
jon kyl is retiring and cornyn wants to move up, number two under mitch mcconnell. this is his second run at nrsc -- they picked up six seats in 2010 and here he was expected to deliver the majority at the end of the cycle, but things turned against them. but i don't think republicans are expecting the kind of rout they saw on tuesday. talking about republicans soul- searching and whatnot, and this is part of it. we talked to one senator yesterday who said we are going to be talking about a lot...
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>> and another seat in 2014, mitch mcconnell's seat. whether in the primary or the general election, he is really concerned. he has been raising some the like a million dollars a quarter in the off-year for the last year-and-a-half or so. he hired rand paul's campaign manager. he is seriously preparing for the contest. >> he made the comment to our colleague, major garrett, that our top priority is stopping barack obama. and they did it, and congressional approval rating went on to historic lows. talking about statements being made when television cameras are on, one thing about this polarization that we have where all we do is we only watch msnbc or with only watch fox and we only talk to people that we want to hear from, you begin to adopt this alternative reality. everybody is talking to you about the fact that when women are raped they cannot really get pregnant and you tend to believe it. and the rest of the world says, are you out of your mind? eventually, that will become a risk for democrats as well. >> and by the way, there is
>> and another seat in 2014, mitch mcconnell's seat. whether in the primary or the general election, he is really concerned. he has been raising some the like a million dollars a quarter in the off-year for the last year-and-a-half or so. he hired rand paul's campaign manager. he is seriously preparing for the contest. >> he made the comment to our colleague, major garrett, that our top priority is stopping barack obama. and they did it, and congressional approval rating went on to...
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mitch mcconnell failed. last night was a victory against obstruction. instead, americans picked a president who wants to spend money on what?! infrastructure? what's that? roads, bridges, green energy, efficient buildings. you know, after a decade of bloodshed and combat abroad, americans re-elected a president who ended one war and is going to end another one. america voted for social change, for the first time in the nation's history, voters approved marriage equality measures. they did it in not just one state, but three states. and in minnesota, voters rejected a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage. voters across the country are in line with the president of the united states when it comes to these equal rights. these equal rights. >> for me, personally, it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that i think same-sex couples should be able to get married. >> so in the end, voters chose to move forward, not to go back to the failures of the past. on a number of different issues. it was a message that president obama understood very
mitch mcconnell failed. last night was a victory against obstruction. instead, americans picked a president who wants to spend money on what?! infrastructure? what's that? roads, bridges, green energy, efficient buildings. you know, after a decade of bloodshed and combat abroad, americans re-elected a president who ended one war and is going to end another one. america voted for social change, for the first time in the nation's history, voters approved marriage equality measures. they did it in...
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. >> spoke with the minority leader in the senate mitch mcconnell and he said we're willing to fix the tax rate, close the loopholes but i don't think they will bargain on raising the rates. i think they honestly believe and i agree that raising tax rates on capital gains will hurt the economy. but there's another side which is the spending side and there are some republicans who say look if the democrats and president obama won't negotiate well let's just do these automatic across the board spending cuts may be the only way we can get democrats to cut the budget. >> some out there in the financial markets they say look we need to cut four times more than the president is proposing under his $4 trillion plan. i'm curious your take why the president has been silent. i guess this is strategic. boehner gave an interview a press conference. he's giving a press conference tomorrow. earlier cnn was told the president won't say anything but tonight we heard he'll make a statement tomorrow. >> the election was two days ago. today is thursday. he'll make a statement tomorrow. markets are volati
. >> spoke with the minority leader in the senate mitch mcconnell and he said we're willing to fix the tax rate, close the loopholes but i don't think they will bargain on raising the rates. i think they honestly believe and i agree that raising tax rates on capital gains will hurt the economy. but there's another side which is the spending side and there are some republicans who say look if the democrats and president obama won't negotiate well let's just do these automatic across the...